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	<title>Comments on: Fringe &#8211; inspired by Tolkien?</title>
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		<title>By: Featherlite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Featherlite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to have to pull out my trilogy and see if I remembered it all correctly.  

You just found &quot;Fringe&quot;?  You are in for a treat as you play catch-up!  Welcome to the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to have to pull out my trilogy and see if I remembered it all correctly.  </p>
<p>You just found &#8220;Fringe&#8221;?  You are in for a treat as you play catch-up!  Welcome to the party.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that analogy!  At least for the main characters - Olivia as Aragorn, Peter as Frodo, Walter as Gandalf. Nina as Lady Galadriel fits too. Broyles as Elrond fits better.  Astrid?  Merry or Pippin....

I&#039;m not sure I can see the Twin Towers as embodiment of evil, though, and in LotR, it&#039;s the White Tower against the Dark Tower (Minas Tirith again Minas Morgul, I think are the names).  But if you use the Towers as the key between the World as it is, and the World as it could be - the same as Frodo looks in Galadriel&#039;s fountain and sees one possible future of The shire - that would be more apt. It&#039;s like the show is playing with our sense of reality - which reality is better, the one where the Two Towers exists, or the one we have without it (where the show takes place, the &#039;real&#039; world as we know it....)

As someone who just discovered Fringe a little over a week ago, I am most disconcerted to find it&#039;s on a break already!!!  Though, it lets me catch up by watching the first season episodes more closely for clues, to see if I&#039;ve missed anything. I am so hoping this show can find it&#039;s place on Thursday nights, but if it can&#039;t, that Fox moves it to any other time slot so it can win the time slot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that analogy!  At least for the main characters &#8211; Olivia as Aragorn, Peter as Frodo, Walter as Gandalf. Nina as Lady Galadriel fits too. Broyles as Elrond fits better.  Astrid?  Merry or Pippin&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I can see the Twin Towers as embodiment of evil, though, and in LotR, it&#8217;s the White Tower against the Dark Tower (Minas Tirith again Minas Morgul, I think are the names).  But if you use the Towers as the key between the World as it is, and the World as it could be &#8211; the same as Frodo looks in Galadriel&#8217;s fountain and sees one possible future of The shire &#8211; that would be more apt. It&#8217;s like the show is playing with our sense of reality &#8211; which reality is better, the one where the Two Towers exists, or the one we have without it (where the show takes place, the &#8216;real&#8217; world as we know it&#8230;.)</p>
<p>As someone who just discovered Fringe a little over a week ago, I am most disconcerted to find it&#8217;s on a break already!!!  Though, it lets me catch up by watching the first season episodes more closely for clues, to see if I&#8217;ve missed anything. I am so hoping this show can find it&#8217;s place on Thursday nights, but if it can&#8217;t, that Fox moves it to any other time slot so it can win the time slot!</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wednesday would be great, or even the old Tuesday slot. It would rule in either of those slots as those nights are pretty much TV wastelands. 

You know, Fox has a long history of this kind of thing - getting a great show going and just killing it by moving it around all over the place. 

Fringe is suffering as far as ratings go, and it is a direct result of the time slot change. And it&#039;s going to get worse. The freaking baseball playoffs and World Series are on Fox the next few weeks, so it&#039;s going to be at least two, possibly three weeks before Fringe comes back. Breaks like that bleed viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wednesday would be great, or even the old Tuesday slot. It would rule in either of those slots as those nights are pretty much TV wastelands. </p>
<p>You know, Fox has a long history of this kind of thing &#8211; getting a great show going and just killing it by moving it around all over the place. </p>
<p>Fringe is suffering as far as ratings go, and it is a direct result of the time slot change. And it&#8217;s going to get worse. The freaking baseball playoffs and World Series are on Fox the next few weeks, so it&#8217;s going to be at least two, possibly three weeks before Fringe comes back. Breaks like that bleed viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Featherlite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Featherlite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How exactly are the twin towers of the World Trade Center the “source of all evil?” They are the victims (in our Universe) of evil, not the genesis. &quot;

In our universe, you&#039;re right.  But they have been used as the symbol for the Other Side, which is the aggressor in the upcoming war, the same as in LOTR.

Mostly this was for fun.  I was struck by the similarities in &quot;Night of Desirable Objects&quot; which gave us both the Gollum-like creature and Sam Weiss, but the two towers thing has been nagging at me since the end of last year.  Broyles and Elrond is a good comparison.

I *SO* agree with you about the Thursday night slot.  Why do they feel it is necessary to throw their best show up against the best shows of every other network?  As good as &quot;Fringe&quot; is, it&#039;s not going to win.  Why not move it to another night (like Wednesday, when I have nothing to watch) and actually have a chance of winning the time slot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How exactly are the twin towers of the World Trade Center the “source of all evil?” They are the victims (in our Universe) of evil, not the genesis. &#8221;</p>
<p>In our universe, you&#8217;re right.  But they have been used as the symbol for the Other Side, which is the aggressor in the upcoming war, the same as in LOTR.</p>
<p>Mostly this was for fun.  I was struck by the similarities in &#8220;Night of Desirable Objects&#8221; which gave us both the Gollum-like creature and Sam Weiss, but the two towers thing has been nagging at me since the end of last year.  Broyles and Elrond is a good comparison.</p>
<p>I *SO* agree with you about the Thursday night slot.  Why do they feel it is necessary to throw their best show up against the best shows of every other network?  As good as &#8220;Fringe&#8221; is, it&#8217;s not going to win.  Why not move it to another night (like Wednesday, when I have nothing to watch) and actually have a chance of winning the time slot?</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit of a reach. How exactly are the twin towers of the World Trade Center the &quot;source of all evil?&quot; They are the victims (in our Universe) of evil, not the genesis. 

When you say in regards to Walter: &quot;And both have replaced someone who had the power and decided to abandon the side of good&quot; I assume you are making a sideways implication that William Bell is Saruman the White. It seems to me that William Bell is, as of now, the only person really trying to do anything at all to save &quot;our&quot; Universe. I certainly don&#039;t see him cooperating with the &quot;bad guys&quot; like Saruman did when he joined forces with Sauron in LOTR. 

Broyles as Legolas just because he&#039;s tall and thin? Nah. If you really want to force Fringe to fit the LOTR framework, Broyles would be more of an Elrond figure - an advisor who has been there and done that, who guides the fellowship but is rarely directly involved in their exploits. 

I don&#039;t mean all this to discredit your opinions - you have every right to them. I&#039;m just saying that, personally, I don&#039;t see it, that&#039;s all. Plus, I imagine you write posts like these to generate discussion, so this was my two cents worth. Heck, I&#039;m just happy that anyone at all is writing about Fringe. I love the show, and it seems to get very little love this year, probably because of Fox&#039;s bone-headed plan to move it to Thursdays. Anyway, keep them coming, and I&#039;ll keep reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit of a reach. How exactly are the twin towers of the World Trade Center the &#8220;source of all evil?&#8221; They are the victims (in our Universe) of evil, not the genesis. </p>
<p>When you say in regards to Walter: &#8220;And both have replaced someone who had the power and decided to abandon the side of good&#8221; I assume you are making a sideways implication that William Bell is Saruman the White. It seems to me that William Bell is, as of now, the only person really trying to do anything at all to save &#8220;our&#8221; Universe. I certainly don&#8217;t see him cooperating with the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; like Saruman did when he joined forces with Sauron in LOTR. </p>
<p>Broyles as Legolas just because he&#8217;s tall and thin? Nah. If you really want to force Fringe to fit the LOTR framework, Broyles would be more of an Elrond figure &#8211; an advisor who has been there and done that, who guides the fellowship but is rarely directly involved in their exploits. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean all this to discredit your opinions &#8211; you have every right to them. I&#8217;m just saying that, personally, I don&#8217;t see it, that&#8217;s all. Plus, I imagine you write posts like these to generate discussion, so this was my two cents worth. Heck, I&#8217;m just happy that anyone at all is writing about Fringe. I love the show, and it seems to get very little love this year, probably because of Fox&#8217;s bone-headed plan to move it to Thursdays. Anyway, keep them coming, and I&#8217;ll keep reading.</p>
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